Van mijn acht overgrootouders zijn er maar twee die mijn geboorte meebeleefd hebben (Petrus en Blondine). Een derde moet nog geweten hebben dat mijn moeder zwanger was (Felix). En met de oudste van mijn overgrootouders (opnieuw Blondine) heb ik een link tot 1849, 161 jaar ver.
Weird isn't it ?
Even herhalen. Mijn geboortedatum : 3 december 1940.
De grootouders van mijn vader :
Jozef Timmermans (Meerbeke 1858 - Meerbeke 1929) en Maria Elisabeth Goessens (Brussel 1862 - Meerbeke 1934) ;
Petrus Joannes Ravijst (Nieuwenhove 1861 - Meerbeke 1944) en Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - Meerbeke 1926).
De grootouders van mijn moeder :
Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - Okegem 1932) en Clementina Broeckaert (Okegem 1858 - Okegem 1939)
Felix De Vidts (Pamel 1853 - Pamel 1940) en Blondina Muylaert (Denderhoutem 1849 - Pamel 1942).
Maar het werkelijke geheugen reikt veel minder ver. Ik heb geen enkele persoonlijke herinnering aan die mensen. Wat ik over hen weet komt van mijn ouders of uit mijn opzoekingen ...
En toch weet ik me zeer eng met hen verbonden !
Showing posts with label De Schepper. Show all posts
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De Schepper
One of my great grandmothers was Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper in Meerbeke, the mother of my paternal grandmother. I already knew Leontien's paternal grandfather and grandmother, but there it stopped for the De Schepper family.
Leontien's mother of course was Antonia De Vidts, an elder sister of my mother's maternal grandfather Felix De Vidts. I explained this in detail in a number of earlier posts. I can trace that De Vidts line back to the early sixteen hundreds.
But as stated before, the line of the De Schepper's stopped with Joanna Maria's grandfather Judocus. Today, digging through the data of Rik Van Hauwe, I found - quite by accident - a link to Rita Van Isveldt's data for Pamel, which allowed me to add seven generations to the De Schepper line : seven couples and their children. Not bad for one day's work, isn't it ? So, another line is opened up to the early 1600s.
My eyes are terribly tired. But that's OK : the winnings are great ! Details will follow.
Leontien's mother of course was Antonia De Vidts, an elder sister of my mother's maternal grandfather Felix De Vidts. I explained this in detail in a number of earlier posts. I can trace that De Vidts line back to the early sixteen hundreds.
But as stated before, the line of the De Schepper's stopped with Joanna Maria's grandfather Judocus. Today, digging through the data of Rik Van Hauwe, I found - quite by accident - a link to Rita Van Isveldt's data for Pamel, which allowed me to add seven generations to the De Schepper line : seven couples and their children. Not bad for one day's work, isn't it ? So, another line is opened up to the early 1600s.
My eyes are terribly tired. But that's OK : the winnings are great ! Details will follow.
Labels:
De Schepper,
De Vidts,
family,
genealogy
Maria Elisabeth Van der Sleyen
See the posts : "July 22 1860" and several others.
On that day Maria Elisabeth Van der Sleyen died in the Koestraat in Pamel. She had been born on May 11 1811. Her parents were Michael (Pamel 1758 - 1827) and Petronella Van Eeckhoudt (Pamel 1771 - 1828). In 1834 she married Joannes De Vidts (Pamel 1811 - 1881). They were farmers.
They had eight children :
-- Henrica (Pamel 1835 - 1873) who married Jacobus De Doncker in Pamel in 1864 ; Jacobus, born in Pamel in 1838, remarried after Henrica's death and got a divorce from his second wife in 1882 ; he may have died in Lille, date unknown.
-- Philomena (Pamel 1837 - 1870) who married Simon De Roock (Pamel 1838 - 1909) in Pamel in 1864. He too remarried after Philomena's death ;
-- Antonia (Pamel 1840 - I haven't yet researched the date of her death, probably in Meerbeke) who married Ludovicus De Schepper in Pamel in 1862. They were the great-grandparents of my father ;
-- Petrus Josephus (Pamel 1843 - 1891) who married Appolonia De Paepe in Pamel in 1873) ;
-- NN a baby in 1845 - it died on the day of its birth ;
-- Benedictus, who lived for almost three months in Pamel in 1847 ;
-- Jan Baptist (Pamel 1850 - 1860) ;
-- Felix (Pamel 1853 - 1941), who married Blondina Muylaert (Denderhoutem 1849 - Pamel 1942) in Denderhoutem in 1882. They were the maternal grandparents of my mother.
My grandmother, Maria Antonia De Vidts (Pamel 1885 - 1949), a daughter of Felix and Blondina, thus knew none of her paternal blood uncles or aunts, with the possible exception of Antonia, who probably was her godmother, and possibly of Petrus Josephus (she was six when he died).
On that day Maria Elisabeth Van der Sleyen died in the Koestraat in Pamel. She had been born on May 11 1811. Her parents were Michael (Pamel 1758 - 1827) and Petronella Van Eeckhoudt (Pamel 1771 - 1828). In 1834 she married Joannes De Vidts (Pamel 1811 - 1881). They were farmers.
They had eight children :
-- Henrica (Pamel 1835 - 1873) who married Jacobus De Doncker in Pamel in 1864 ; Jacobus, born in Pamel in 1838, remarried after Henrica's death and got a divorce from his second wife in 1882 ; he may have died in Lille, date unknown.
-- Philomena (Pamel 1837 - 1870) who married Simon De Roock (Pamel 1838 - 1909) in Pamel in 1864. He too remarried after Philomena's death ;
-- Antonia (Pamel 1840 - I haven't yet researched the date of her death, probably in Meerbeke) who married Ludovicus De Schepper in Pamel in 1862. They were the great-grandparents of my father ;
-- Petrus Josephus (Pamel 1843 - 1891) who married Appolonia De Paepe in Pamel in 1873) ;
-- NN a baby in 1845 - it died on the day of its birth ;
-- Benedictus, who lived for almost three months in Pamel in 1847 ;
-- Jan Baptist (Pamel 1850 - 1860) ;
-- Felix (Pamel 1853 - 1941), who married Blondina Muylaert (Denderhoutem 1849 - Pamel 1942) in Denderhoutem in 1882. They were the maternal grandparents of my mother.
My grandmother, Maria Antonia De Vidts (Pamel 1885 - 1949), a daughter of Felix and Blondina, thus knew none of her paternal blood uncles or aunts, with the possible exception of Antonia, who probably was her godmother, and possibly of Petrus Josephus (she was six when he died).
Labels:
De Schepper,
De Vidts,
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Muylaert,
Van der Sleyen,
Van Eeckhoudt
Leontien
See the post on "July 18 1864".
De Schepper Joanna Maria was born in Meerbeke. She was my father's maternal grandmother. Since the forementioned post I have not yet had the opportunity to continue my research on her ancestry or descendance.
Leontien died in Meerbeke on December 11 1926.
De Schepper Joanna Maria was born in Meerbeke. She was my father's maternal grandmother. Since the forementioned post I have not yet had the opportunity to continue my research on her ancestry or descendance.
Leontien died in Meerbeke on December 11 1926.
Labels:
De Schepper,
family
June 15 1833
Ludovicus De Schepper was born in Meerbeke ; a son to Judocus born ca 1788 and to Joanna De Dobbeleer, born ca 1791.
In 1862, Ludovicus married Antonia De Vidts, born in Pamel in 1840, and they had four children at least. One of them was my great-grandmother Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - 1926), the mother of my paternal grandmother Rosalia Margarteha Ravijst (Meerbeke 1892 - Gent 1973).
Ludovicus has been a miller's aid, later probably a farmer, maybe a miller himself and - according to family lore, but as yet unconfirmed - a rural policeman ("petjen de sjampetter").
Antonia most probably was the godmother of her niece, my maternal grandmother Maria Antonia De Vidts (Pamel 1885 - Okegem 1949). My mother once told me that petjen de sjampetter was the godfather of her mother, but that was before I discovered (unfortunately after my mother's death) that his wife was her grandfather's sister.
I haven't yet looked up the ascendancy of this branch of the De Schepper family ; neither do I have the date of death of Ludovicus and Antonia, nor the complete list of their children.
I know I wrote before that my mother knew she and my father were distant relatives, but that she did not know how. It was only after her death that I discovered the link, which was much simpler than some of the suppositions I had concocted before.
In 1862, Ludovicus married Antonia De Vidts, born in Pamel in 1840, and they had four children at least. One of them was my great-grandmother Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - 1926), the mother of my paternal grandmother Rosalia Margarteha Ravijst (Meerbeke 1892 - Gent 1973).
Ludovicus has been a miller's aid, later probably a farmer, maybe a miller himself and - according to family lore, but as yet unconfirmed - a rural policeman ("petjen de sjampetter").
Antonia most probably was the godmother of her niece, my maternal grandmother Maria Antonia De Vidts (Pamel 1885 - Okegem 1949). My mother once told me that petjen de sjampetter was the godfather of her mother, but that was before I discovered (unfortunately after my mother's death) that his wife was her grandfather's sister.
I haven't yet looked up the ascendancy of this branch of the De Schepper family ; neither do I have the date of death of Ludovicus and Antonia, nor the complete list of their children.
I know I wrote before that my mother knew she and my father were distant relatives, but that she did not know how. It was only after her death that I discovered the link, which was much simpler than some of the suppositions I had concocted before.
Labels:
De Dobbeleer,
De Schepper,
De Vidts,
family,
Ravijst
May 30 1762
Joanna Straetman, born in Okegem on March 9 1697, passed away on May 30 1762. In 1726 she had married Joannes Van der Speeten (Denderhoutem 1702 - Okegem 1761).
They had five children. Petrus Van der Speeten (Okegem 1733 - 1786) was number three. In 1757 he married Joanna De Mol (Okegem 1733 - 1791).
Petrus and Joanna had nine children. Cornelius (1772 - 1806) was number eight. In 1795 he married Alexandrina De Schepper (Okegem 1775 - 1853) with whom he had six children. After his death Alexandrina married Petrus Judocus Neukermans (Okegem 1772 - 1812) of the second Neukermans branch in Okegem. With him she had another 3 children.
Alexandrina Van der Speeten (Okegem 1795 - 1831) was the oldest of the nine children of Alexandrina De Schepper. In 1818 she married Andreas Asselman (Okegem 1795 - 1875). They had five children of which Catherina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892) was the third. Andreas remarried after Alexandrina's death but had no more children.
Catharina Asselman married Amandus Neukermans (Okegem 1824 - 1857). They had five children. My great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932) was number four and their first son.
They had five children. Petrus Van der Speeten (Okegem 1733 - 1786) was number three. In 1757 he married Joanna De Mol (Okegem 1733 - 1791).
Petrus and Joanna had nine children. Cornelius (1772 - 1806) was number eight. In 1795 he married Alexandrina De Schepper (Okegem 1775 - 1853) with whom he had six children. After his death Alexandrina married Petrus Judocus Neukermans (Okegem 1772 - 1812) of the second Neukermans branch in Okegem. With him she had another 3 children.
Alexandrina Van der Speeten (Okegem 1795 - 1831) was the oldest of the nine children of Alexandrina De Schepper. In 1818 she married Andreas Asselman (Okegem 1795 - 1875). They had five children of which Catherina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892) was the third. Andreas remarried after Alexandrina's death but had no more children.
Catharina Asselman married Amandus Neukermans (Okegem 1824 - 1857). They had five children. My great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932) was number four and their first son.
Labels:
Asselman,
De Mol,
De Schepper,
family,
Neukermans,
Straetman,
Van der Speeten
May 17 1840
Antonia De Vidts was born in Pamel as the third child of Joannes De Vidts (Pamel 1811 - 1881) and Maria Elisabeth Van der Sleyen (Pamel 1811 - 1860). They lived in the Koestraat and had seven children :
Henrica (Pamel 1835 - 1873) ;
Philomena (Pamel 1837 - 1870) ;
Antonia (Pamel 1840 - she probably died in Meerbeke and I still have to look up the date) ;
Petrus Josephus (Pamel 1843 - 1891) ;
an unnamed baby who died on the day of its birth in 1845 ;
Benedictus, who lived for about three months in 1847 ;
Jan Baptist (Pamel 1850 - 1860) ;
Felix (Pamel 1853 - 1940).
It may well be the loss of her third child that led to the premature death of Maria Elisabeth in 1860 - she died a couple of months after Jan Baptist ...
Antonia married Ludovicus De Schepper (Meerbeke 1833 - ?) in Pamel in 1862. As stated many times before, they were the great-grandparents of my father ; her brother Felix and his wife Blondina Muylaert (Denderhoutem 1849 - Pamel 1942) were the maternal grandparents of my mother.
My mother's mother Maria Antonia De Vidts (Pamel 1885 - Okegem 1949) thus never knew her paternal grandparents, nor her paternal aunts and uncles, except maybe for Antonia, who probably was her godmother, and for Petrus Josephus who died when she was about six ; but she knew her cousins, the children of Henrica, of Philomena, of Antonia and of Petrus Josephus.
I still have a lot of research to do on Antonia and Ludovicus, who was a miller's helper, farmer and maybe a local policeman (champetter). Once again, there is almost no published research on Meerbeke, so I have to dig up all the information the hard way.
Henrica (Pamel 1835 - 1873) ;
Philomena (Pamel 1837 - 1870) ;
Antonia (Pamel 1840 - she probably died in Meerbeke and I still have to look up the date) ;
Petrus Josephus (Pamel 1843 - 1891) ;
an unnamed baby who died on the day of its birth in 1845 ;
Benedictus, who lived for about three months in 1847 ;
Jan Baptist (Pamel 1850 - 1860) ;
Felix (Pamel 1853 - 1940).
It may well be the loss of her third child that led to the premature death of Maria Elisabeth in 1860 - she died a couple of months after Jan Baptist ...
Antonia married Ludovicus De Schepper (Meerbeke 1833 - ?) in Pamel in 1862. As stated many times before, they were the great-grandparents of my father ; her brother Felix and his wife Blondina Muylaert (Denderhoutem 1849 - Pamel 1942) were the maternal grandparents of my mother.
My mother's mother Maria Antonia De Vidts (Pamel 1885 - Okegem 1949) thus never knew her paternal grandparents, nor her paternal aunts and uncles, except maybe for Antonia, who probably was her godmother, and for Petrus Josephus who died when she was about six ; but she knew her cousins, the children of Henrica, of Philomena, of Antonia and of Petrus Josephus.
I still have a lot of research to do on Antonia and Ludovicus, who was a miller's helper, farmer and maybe a local policeman (champetter). Once again, there is almost no published research on Meerbeke, so I have to dig up all the information the hard way.
Labels:
De Schepper,
De Vidts,
family,
Muylaert,
Van der Sleyen
April 3 1853
Alexandrina De Schepper died in Okegem where she had been born on May 5 1775.
In 1795, she married Cornelius Van der Speeten (Okegem 1772 - 1806) with whom she had six children. After she was widowed, she married a widower Petrus Judocus Neukermans (Okegem 1772 - 1853) with whom she had another three children. Petrus is of the other Neukermans branch in Okegem.
I descend from their eldest daughter of Cornelius and Alexandrina : Alexandrina Van der Speeten, apparently conceived a few months before her parents married. She lived in Okegem from 1795 to 1831).
Further information can be found in previous posts, including " February 2 1806".
In 1795, she married Cornelius Van der Speeten (Okegem 1772 - 1806) with whom she had six children. After she was widowed, she married a widower Petrus Judocus Neukermans (Okegem 1772 - 1853) with whom she had another three children. Petrus is of the other Neukermans branch in Okegem.
I descend from their eldest daughter of Cornelius and Alexandrina : Alexandrina Van der Speeten, apparently conceived a few months before her parents married. She lived in Okegem from 1795 to 1831).
Further information can be found in previous posts, including " February 2 1806".
Labels:
De Schepper,
family,
Neukermans,
Van der Speeten
March 20 1892
My paternal grandmother Rosalia Margaretha (Margriet) Ravijst was born in Meerbeke. She was one of (at least) six children of Petrus Joannes Ravijst (Nieuwenhove 1861 - Meerbeke 1944) and Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - 1926).
She married Pieter Jozef Timmermans (Meerbeke 1886 - 1953) and they had seven children, five of which lived to adulthood. My father was their second child.
Margriet died in the university hospital in Ghent on December 2 1973 - exactly twenty years minus two days after her husband, and one day before my 33d birthday.
She was the longest lived of my grandparents, and not the easiest of characters. Seen from that point of view, I cannot deny she was my grandmother !
I know little or nothing about her forebears : her father was a natural child - father unknown so he bore his mother's name ; her father's mother married but I do not know where (the few surviving family members do not have the information) and up to now I have been unable to trace the provenance of his maternal grandparents beyond the early 19th century, but then I haven't made a priority of that research. I still have a very significant lot of work to do on this branch of my genealogy.
But as I stated often enough before, my grandmother's maternal grandmother Antonia De Vidts, born in Pamel in 1840, was the sister of my mother's maternal grandfather, Felix De Vidts (Pamel 1853 - 1940).
More : see various previous posts.
She married Pieter Jozef Timmermans (Meerbeke 1886 - 1953) and they had seven children, five of which lived to adulthood. My father was their second child.
Margriet died in the university hospital in Ghent on December 2 1973 - exactly twenty years minus two days after her husband, and one day before my 33d birthday.
She was the longest lived of my grandparents, and not the easiest of characters. Seen from that point of view, I cannot deny she was my grandmother !
I know little or nothing about her forebears : her father was a natural child - father unknown so he bore his mother's name ; her father's mother married but I do not know where (the few surviving family members do not have the information) and up to now I have been unable to trace the provenance of his maternal grandparents beyond the early 19th century, but then I haven't made a priority of that research. I still have a very significant lot of work to do on this branch of my genealogy.
But as I stated often enough before, my grandmother's maternal grandmother Antonia De Vidts, born in Pamel in 1840, was the sister of my mother's maternal grandfather, Felix De Vidts (Pamel 1853 - 1940).
More : see various previous posts.
Labels:
De Schepper,
De Vidts,
family,
Ravijst,
Timmermans
February 2 1806
Cornelius Van der Speeten died in Okegem, where he had been born on June 12 1772. A short life span, but not unusually short in those times. He was an agricultural hand (landbouwer, werkman) and lived in the Fonteinstraat. He was the first husband of Alexandrina De Schepper Okegem 1775 - 1853). They married in 1795, and at the beginning of their marriage they lived with Alexandrina's parents.
They had six children of which Alexandrina Van der Speeten was the eldest (Okegem 1795 - 1835). Like her father and unlike her mother she died young. Her mother had another three children with her second husband (see the post : "February 17 1786").
Cornelius and Alexandrina were the great-grandparents of one of my maternal great-grandparent, Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932).
They had six children of which Alexandrina Van der Speeten was the eldest (Okegem 1795 - 1835). Like her father and unlike her mother she died young. Her mother had another three children with her second husband (see the post : "February 17 1786").
Cornelius and Alexandrina were the great-grandparents of one of my maternal great-grandparent, Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932).
February 17 1786
Petrus Van der Speeten died in Okegem where he was buried two days later. He was born in Okegem on January 1 1733 and married Joanna De Mol (Okegem 1733 - 1791) in 1757.
The had nine children. Cornelius Van der Speeten (Okegem 1772 - 1806) was number eight. In 1795 he married Alexandrina De Schepper (Okegem 1775 - 1853). They had six children. After his death, Alexandrina married Petrus Judocus Neukermans in 1807. With him, she had an additional three children.
Alexandrina Van der Speeten (Okegem 1795 - 1831) was the eldest of six children of Cornelius and Alexandrina. We just met her in the previous post "February 15 1785".
The Petrus Judocus Neukermans she married was a member of the second (probably related) branch of the Neukermans family in Okegem. Both branches appeared in Okegem in the years after the census of 1693.
The had nine children. Cornelius Van der Speeten (Okegem 1772 - 1806) was number eight. In 1795 he married Alexandrina De Schepper (Okegem 1775 - 1853). They had six children. After his death, Alexandrina married Petrus Judocus Neukermans in 1807. With him, she had an additional three children.
Alexandrina Van der Speeten (Okegem 1795 - 1831) was the eldest of six children of Cornelius and Alexandrina. We just met her in the previous post "February 15 1785".
The Petrus Judocus Neukermans she married was a member of the second (probably related) branch of the Neukermans family in Okegem. Both branches appeared in Okegem in the years after the census of 1693.
February 1 1627
Judocus Paridaens was born in Pamel. He was one of the seven children of Martinus Paridaens (+ Pamel 1667) and Catharina Cools.
Ca 1654, Judocus married Catharina Wijns (+ Pamel 1697). They had seven children too : their son Petrus Paridaens (Pamel 1655 - 1728) and his second wife Gerardina Clement (+ Pamel 1710) had a daughter Magdalena (Pamel 1702 - Okegem after 1785).
In 1728, Magdalena married Joannes Van de Perre (Okegem 1706 - 1762). They had 10 children.
I descend from two of them :
-- Catharina Van de Perre (Okegem 1735 - 1812), who married Petrus De Schepper (Okegem 1736 - 1805) ;
-- Jacobus Antonius (Okegem 1740 - 1812) and his much younger second wife Joanne Maria Wellekens (Okegem 1780 - 1839).
The rest of the lines has been explained in "September 15 1655", "September 8 1735" and various other posts.
Ca 1654, Judocus married Catharina Wijns (+ Pamel 1697). They had seven children too : their son Petrus Paridaens (Pamel 1655 - 1728) and his second wife Gerardina Clement (+ Pamel 1710) had a daughter Magdalena (Pamel 1702 - Okegem after 1785).
In 1728, Magdalena married Joannes Van de Perre (Okegem 1706 - 1762). They had 10 children.
I descend from two of them :
-- Catharina Van de Perre (Okegem 1735 - 1812), who married Petrus De Schepper (Okegem 1736 - 1805) ;
-- Jacobus Antonius (Okegem 1740 - 1812) and his much younger second wife Joanne Maria Wellekens (Okegem 1780 - 1839).
The rest of the lines has been explained in "September 15 1655", "September 8 1735" and various other posts.
Labels:
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De Schepper,
family,
Paridaens,
Van de Perre,
Wellekens,
Wijns
January 24 1805
Petrus De Schepper was born in Okegem on September 5 1736. He was a son of Michael De Schepper (Iddergem 1702 - Okegem 1754) and Anna Van de Maele (ca 1701 - Okegem 1741).
In 1768 he married Catharina Van de Perre (Okegem 1735 - 1812).
Alexandrina (Okegem 1775 - 1853) wa the last of their four children and the only one who reached adulthood.
We have met her before. See : "September 15 1655" and other previous posts.
The De Schepper family intervenes at various points in my genealogy. It is possible, and even probable (although not yet researched or proven) that the various branches are inter-related.
In 1768 he married Catharina Van de Perre (Okegem 1735 - 1812).
Alexandrina (Okegem 1775 - 1853) wa the last of their four children and the only one who reached adulthood.
We have met her before. See : "September 15 1655" and other previous posts.
The De Schepper family intervenes at various points in my genealogy. It is possible, and even probable (although not yet researched or proven) that the various branches are inter-related.
January 1 1861
Petrus Joannes Ravijst (Ravijts) was born in Nieuwenhove as a natural son of Rosalia Ravijst, born in Nieuwenhove in 1839. Rosalia was a maid in a regional manor. There are various stories about the possible father - none can be proven.
Petrus Joannes was a servant and a coachman. He married Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - 1926). They had at least six children, one of which was my father's mother Rosalia Margaretha Ravijst (Meerbeke 1892 - 1973). Despite his humble occupations and origin, he was not without means.
This is the branch of my family I know almost nothing about - and to be honest, I haven't really started systematic research yet, given the fact that so many other lines were to be had much more easily in reliable published sources.
I do not know where Rosalia's father, born around 1805 - 1810 came from ; I do not know where he married ; I do not yet know whom and where Rosalia married after she had Petrus Joannes. I hear stories about half sisters in Tollembeek but very few people who could put me on the right track are alive today. And the variations on the family name are numerous (Ravijst, Ravijts, Ravyts, Ravyts, Raveyst, Raveyts, Ravats, Ravets, possibly Favets a.s.o.)
A lot of research remains to be done.
Petrus Joannes was a servant and a coachman. He married Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - 1926). They had at least six children, one of which was my father's mother Rosalia Margaretha Ravijst (Meerbeke 1892 - 1973). Despite his humble occupations and origin, he was not without means.
This is the branch of my family I know almost nothing about - and to be honest, I haven't really started systematic research yet, given the fact that so many other lines were to be had much more easily in reliable published sources.
I do not know where Rosalia's father, born around 1805 - 1810 came from ; I do not know where he married ; I do not yet know whom and where Rosalia married after she had Petrus Joannes. I hear stories about half sisters in Tollembeek but very few people who could put me on the right track are alive today. And the variations on the family name are numerous (Ravijst, Ravijts, Ravyts, Ravyts, Raveyst, Raveyts, Ravats, Ravets, possibly Favets a.s.o.)
A lot of research remains to be done.
Labels:
De Schepper,
family,
Ravijst
December 28 1831
Alexandrina Van der Speeten died in Okegem, where she had been born on September 20 1795 as the eldest child of Cornelius Van der Speeten (Okegem 1772 - 1806) and Alexandrina De Schepper (Okegem 1775 - 1853).
Alexandrina Van der Speeten married Andreas Asselman (Okegem 1795 - 1875) in 1818. They had five children : de middle one Catharina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892) was the mother of my great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932).
See also : "September 20 1795" and "September 8 1735".
Alexandrina Van der Speeten married Andreas Asselman (Okegem 1795 - 1875) in 1818. They had five children : de middle one Catharina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892) was the mother of my great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932).
See also : "September 20 1795" and "September 8 1735".
December 11 1926
Death in Meerbeke of Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper, my great-grandmother, the mother of my father's mother.
I already wrote about her on her birthday : "July 18 1864".
I already wrote about her on her birthday : "July 18 1864".
Labels:
De Schepper,
family
December 2 1973
On that day, my grandmother Rosalia Margaretha (Margriet) Ravijst died in the UZ in Ghent. She was born in Meerbeke on March 20 1892 as a daughter of Petrus Joannes Ravijst (Nieuwenhove 1861 - Meerbeke 1944) and of Joanna Maria (Leontien) De Schepper (Meerbeke 1864 - 1926).She married Pieter Jozef Timmermans (Meerbeke 1886 - 1953) and they had seven children, five of whom survived to adulthood - see post "My paternal grandparents". Most of their married life, they lived on the Hemelrijk in Meerbeke where my grandfather was a carriage maker, carpenter and fruit grower.
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She has been sickly most of her life, but still survived her husband by twenty years minus a couple of days (he died on December 4 1953 in Ninove) ... and their oldest grandchild was born on December 3 1940.
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The picture shows my grandmother and me.
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She was the last of my four grandparents to die ; still I know less about her than about the other three.
The provenance of her great-grandfather Jan Baptiste, born ca 1805 - 1808 remains a mystery to me, as well as the stories surrounding her father Petrus Joannes, who was born out of wedlock while his mother was a servant in a castle (a story told a thousand times in the 19th and early 20yh century).
I know her grandmother married, probably in Tollembeek, but I ignore the name of her husband and of her children. The (few) surviving family members, old enough to know something, cannot help me any further.
There are Ravijst (Ravijts, Ravyts etc ...) families in the region of Asse, Lebbeke and Opwijk, but no link has yet been found ; idem for the region of Tollembeek.
Maybe the family lore that a soldier of Napoleon married a local girl may be true after all : there are very comparable family names in France. And I must confess that the further study of this branch of my family has not been a priority up to now - there was so much to collect elsewhere ... without too much effort.
Labels:
De Schepper,
family,
Ravijst,
Timmermans
November 28 1815
Maria Francisca De Schepper was born in Iddergem on January 17 1744. She was a daughter of Petrus and of Catharina De Quick.
She married Petrus Asselman (Okegem 1729 - 1792) and had seven children. She died in Okegem on November 28 1815.
Franciscus (Okegem 1769 - 1865) was their third child - he lived to be 95.
His son Andreas (Okegem 1795 - 1875) was the eldest of seven and had a daughter Catharina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892).
Catharina was the third of five and married Amandus Neukermans (Okegem 1824 - 1857).
My great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932) was the fourth of their five children. Hermilianus has been named a number of times before.
She married Petrus Asselman (Okegem 1729 - 1792) and had seven children. She died in Okegem on November 28 1815.
Franciscus (Okegem 1769 - 1865) was their third child - he lived to be 95.
His son Andreas (Okegem 1795 - 1875) was the eldest of seven and had a daughter Catharina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892).
Catharina was the third of five and married Amandus Neukermans (Okegem 1824 - 1857).
My great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932) was the fourth of their five children. Hermilianus has been named a number of times before.
Labels:
Asselman,
De Quick,
De Schepper,
family,
Neukermans
November 4 1792
I forgot to mention that Petrus Asselman died on that day in Okegem, where he had been baptised on November 19 1729. He had been alderman (schepen) of Okegem in 1765 - 1768 and in 1770 - 1773 and apparently was poor (he had to borrow money). He had 11 children, four with his first wife and seven with his second wife Maria Francisca De Schepper (Iddergem 1744 - Okegem 1815).
Long-lived Franciscus Asselman (Okegem 1769 - 1865) was a son of Maria Francisca and the father of Andreas (Okegem 1795 - 1875). Andreas had five children, all with his first wife Alexandrina Van der Speeten (Okegem 1795 - 1831).
As mentioned before, their daughter Catharina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892) was the mother of my great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932) whose father Amandus Neukermans passed away very young (Okegem 1824 - 1857).
Long-lived Franciscus Asselman (Okegem 1769 - 1865) was a son of Maria Francisca and the father of Andreas (Okegem 1795 - 1875). Andreas had five children, all with his first wife Alexandrina Van der Speeten (Okegem 1795 - 1831).
As mentioned before, their daughter Catharina Asselman (Okegem 1823 - 1892) was the mother of my great-grandfather Hermilianus Neukermans (Okegem 1855 - 1932) whose father Amandus Neukermans passed away very young (Okegem 1824 - 1857).
Strictly for fun
A colleague genealogist sent me the following line (thank you, Linda).
I'm sure that some of my family members, knowing nothing about the numbers op persons involved in distant genealogy, will take this infomation much more seriously than I do.
I'm sure that some of my family members, knowing nothing about the numbers op persons involved in distant genealogy, will take this infomation much more seriously than I do.
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Let's start with the good duke Jan I, hertog van Brabant 1254 - 1294.
He had a daughter (natural child) Juliana van Brabant
She had a son Willem van Kesterbeke
Catharina van Kesterbeke was his daughter
Maria Swaef + 1418 was her child
and so on :
Jan Pipenpoy 1385 - 1457
Willem Pipenpoy + 1483
Jan Pipenpoy + 1532
Jan Pipenpoy + 1553
Jan Pipenpoy + 1615
Maria Pipenpoy
Zeger Van Cutsem + 1581
Barbara van Cutsem
Michael Galmaert
Barbara Galmaert 1720
Maria Josina Covens 1759 -1827
Maria Elisabeth Van Lierde 1790 - 1838
Joannes De Vidts 1811 - 1881
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Antonia De Vidts 1840
Joanna Maria De Schepper 1864 - 1926
Rosalia Margaretha Ravijst 1892 - 1973
Petrus Joannes Timmermans 1913 - 1980
and I return to
Joannes De Vidts 1811 - 1881
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Felix De Vidts 1853 -1940
Maria Antonia De Vidts 1885 - 1949
Margaretha Felicitas Neukermans 1914 - 2000.
Petrus Joannes Timmermans married Margaretha Felicitas De Vidts, and there I was ...
Let's start with the good duke Jan I, hertog van Brabant 1254 - 1294.
He had a daughter (natural child) Juliana van Brabant
She had a son Willem van Kesterbeke
Catharina van Kesterbeke was his daughter
Maria Swaef + 1418 was her child
and so on :
Jan Pipenpoy 1385 - 1457
Willem Pipenpoy + 1483
Jan Pipenpoy + 1532
Jan Pipenpoy + 1553
Jan Pipenpoy + 1615
Maria Pipenpoy
Zeger Van Cutsem + 1581
Barbara van Cutsem
Michael Galmaert
Barbara Galmaert 1720
Maria Josina Covens 1759 -1827
Maria Elisabeth Van Lierde 1790 - 1838
Joannes De Vidts 1811 - 1881
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Antonia De Vidts 1840
Joanna Maria De Schepper 1864 - 1926
Rosalia Margaretha Ravijst 1892 - 1973
Petrus Joannes Timmermans 1913 - 1980
and I return to
Joannes De Vidts 1811 - 1881
_____________________
Felix De Vidts 1853 -1940
Maria Antonia De Vidts 1885 - 1949
Margaretha Felicitas Neukermans 1914 - 2000.
Petrus Joannes Timmermans married Margaretha Felicitas De Vidts, and there I was ...
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